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sobota 4. mája 2013

Getting direct referrals

Getting direct referrals is really very good and strong advisable altough it requires hard work to get them more. There are more ways how to get them. Nowadays you can find an application called neobux direct referral adder.

Hacking and getting direct referrals quickly is really nice but your account may become quickly suspended. I noticed that one of my rented referrals was yesterday autorecycled but he was clicking enough. So I contacted the customer support what happened. And the answer is that there can be two reasons: A referral is not clicking in a period of 14 days (what is not this case) or his account was suspended. So his account was suspended.

Neobux has strong anticheat protection. So don´t hack and have fun. It is better to promote your link with your username legally or find a legally way to promote your link on trusted sites or with trusted advertisers. Good luck

štvrtok 18. apríla 2013

utorok 16. apríla 2013

WHY REFERRALS DON'T CLICK ON ALL THEIR ADS

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2011/05/18 at 17:09
schen2000 edited message on 2012/05/19 at 05:52
WHY REFERRALS DON'T CLICK ON ALL THEIR ADS
(this is a direct contact observations from
one of my direct referral/friend)


It's not a matter of how many ads available
to click but more of personal priorities, goals and situations.

Here are list of why's:
1. Job changes
2. After 6 months and still don't know how to click according server time
3. Computer / Network connection problems
4. Picking up child from daycare
5. Distracted from clicking while playing online games
6. Kids fighting and crying
7. Phone calls from work and co-workers (many times through out the day)
8. Distracted from watching movies on his android
9. Spending time with child and shopping
10. Playing with the kids
11. When to buy dinner, prepare meals, and feeding the kid
12. Spending xxx time with spouse
13. Have other hobby/interest to do
14. New toys / gadgets to learn and play with
15. Distracted from latest electronics stuff
16. Taking kid to bed
17. Exahausted / tired after work
18. Stress out from disciplining the kid
19. Divorce / personal problems
20. Court papers / running errands
21. Driving 5 hr to mothers house for the weekend
22. Child is sick
23. Day car is over changing
24. Boss requested to work OT and stay late
25. Need to work on weekends because new employee quite
26. Chatting with friends on other social sites / game forums
27. Child not wanting to sleep
28. Late for work
29. Friends needing help with moving
30. Recreation / trips

That's it for now...

 
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2011/02/17 at 14:34
I can assure you that I have some rented referrals who still keep clicking for me and some of them I had initially rented them back in the summer of 2008. So, there are referrals who keep clicking for long periods.

If the clicking behavior of a referral has been stabilized in an unprofitable level for you, but he/she clicks enough to avoid auto-recycling, you have the perfect candidate for manual recycling.

Most of the members do not have referrals, so if they don't click at all or if they click less than the available ads they have nothing to loose except of potential earnings.

Here are some more reasons except the above that can explain a variety of behaviors:

-Some are on dial up connections and they don't have the patience to wait if an ad is loading slow.
-Some have specific problems with their computers and/or connections that are preventing/delaying some ads from loading.
-Some are using the same IP address(es) with other users and the result is many of them not to be able to click some ads.
-Some do not like a specific ad for their own reasons.
-Some with an avg<1 are clicking only 1 ad. If their avg is >1 and <2 are clicking only 2, etc...
-Some are clicking every now and then to just keep their accounts alive.
-Finally, any random situation like a phone ringing or something similar can make someone to ignore some ads.

WHY RENTED REFERRALS AVERAGES ARE LOW

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2011/05/09 at 19:24
schen2000 edited message on 2012/08/02 at 08:33
WHY RENTED REFERRALS AVERAGES ARE LOW
(Any average above your BEP is a profitable average)



Here are some possible causes of
low averages for rented referrals:


  1. Not clicking daily according to server time
  2. Missing too many days of your own daily ad clicks
  3. Refs clicking days are getting farther apart
    (could be an indication of clicking activity is slowing)
  4. Refs are clicking less than your current BEP
  5. Recycling too many refs more than 4~5% each day
    (too many 0 clickers and newly exchanged referrals)
  6. Recycling too many 0 clickers
  7. Too much static recycling
    (adjust to changes and current account conditions)
  8. Insufficient data to study referrals when recycling
    (at least 3 weeks or more the better)
  9. Recycling refs close to being auto-recycling
    (7 or more days of inactivity)
  10. Renewing too many refs at 15 days or 30 days
  11. Too low number amounts of rented referrals
    (higher chances of average fluctuations)
  12. Too many refs clicking unprofitable at regular bases
  13. Not recycling enough


Here are some possible solutions:


  1. Clicking daily according to server time
    (doing so to earn from your refs clicks everyday)
  2. Click your ads daily
    (not missing any day of earnings)
  3. Monitor refs clicking activities or patterns
    (helps to reduce unprofitable clickers)
  4. Recycle unprofitable refs
    (focus on older refs because you have more data to judge them with)
  5. Recycle and test your results on smaller group of selected referrals
  6. Recommended not to recycle 0 clickers
    (because there is no data to judge them with)
  7. Change and adapt your current recycling policy to current account condition
    (if the current recycling is not working you must change
    the way how you select the referrals to recycle)
    Read Admin's post about over-recycling
  8. Use the export list to gather more data
  9. Recycling refs too close of being auto-recycling
    (let the auto-recycle take care of them for free)
  10. Renewing for longer days to lower the BEP average and risks
  11. Increase # of refs to meet your budget/goal and as your managing skills increases
  12. Locate and find refs to monitor or recycle that are clicking unprofitably
  13. Many times older refs activity slows down to a unprofitable level while
    the averages are still high identify those refs who are now for example: only making
    2 or 3 clicks every 7 days etc. to be monitored or recycled

PER CLICK RATE FOR ADVERTISEMENT EXPOSURES

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2011/04/04 at 19:17
schen2000 edited message on 2012/08/02 at 08:36
PER CLICK RATE FOR ADVERTISEMENT EXPOSURES:
(check the latest update on the help page http://www.neobux.com/m/a/)

Current situation

As I mentioned before, I was waiting for free recycle of one low-clicking referral. Today he made 2 clicks, but as he was clicking in unprofitable way, I decided to recycle him for 0,07 USD. I am going to judge him now and try to understand which planet are he from. Soon I will let you know... If you would like to ask something about neobux, feel free to comment some of my post for your question etc. I am opened to help you as I can :)

Previously I catched 2 minijobs tasks for 22 cents each and on that day I made 0,7 USD transfer to the rental balance. I can say it was very succesfull day for me. So now would be fine to catch some minijobs for cover my recycle cost and increase my earnings. Believe that soon there will be some good and well paid minijobs. Good luck.

Here is my current personal stats:
Rented:5 (referrrals)
You:11,459 (my seen ads)
Your referrals:3,026 (their amount of clicks)
Main Balance:0.027
Rental Balance:14.460
Direct Purchases:37.900 (transfers from main to rental balance)
NeoPoints:9,047
NeoCoins:825
NeoCoins (Pending):179
Mini Jobs:7.750
Mini Jobs (Bonuses):0.840
clicks today:5
clicks yesterday:4
clicks last 10 days:43

Soon, in the end of april (this month) - when you look at Neocoins pending, my pending neocoins will be converted totally to 1000 neocoins. Conversion rate = 1000 neocoins for 1 dollar. So 1 more dollar added to my balance. Nice :) I´ve earned these neocoins from Matomy videos and from Matomy tasks.

Thank you for watching my blog. Have a nice time and good luck :) 





štvrtok 11. apríla 2013

Current rented referrals stats

Here´s a rented referrals averages after more than 60 days of renting referrals.


As we can see, the third rented referral, red flagged isn´t clicking in a profitable way for me as I am standard member. I will judge him maybe 2 days but I strongly believe I should recycle him after his next click(s).

Here next is attached the clicking history of this referral. I am using export list to lear the clicking patterns of my refs with Neobux handy manager. Wonderful tool to study your referrals....


So as I am judging this not very profitable referral, I can see that his clicks are getting low with the time so there is not big chance that his clicks will dramatically change at this time. But it is normal, no need to make a panic. Hi is just a human and people are usually people :) So, today or tomorrow he should be recycled as my BEP is 0,933. But at first, I will wait if he can meet the requirements for free recycle (14 days without click). If not, after the next click he make, he will be recycled.

streda 10. apríla 2013

My current statistics in graphs

here is my current statistics. Today I was lucky thanks to minijobs and si I could add 0,7USD to my rental balance. Good help, So, here it is.....


nedeľa 7. apríla 2013

Some Basic Guidelines


HERE ARE SOME BASIC GUIDE LINES

1. Click all your ad's everyday according to server time.



2. Renewal.

Always maintain enough budget for recycling and renewal cost.

When you first rent referrals it is only for 30 days.
You must decide again before the 30 days is up how much
longer to renew them befor they expire.
There is a fee if you let them expire.
Standard members: $0.02
Golden members: $0.04


If you manually renew rented referrals longer than 60 days
you don't need to have AutoPay ON.
Or use AutoPay to help spread out the cost of renewals.


Even though it is more costs up front renew rented referrals for longer
periods like 90/150/240 days it gives you the better discounts,
lowering the averages required and increase proft margin.


3. Find out your break even average.

For standard member with 1~250 rented referrals
the break even average renewing:
15 days = 1.467
30 days = 1.400
60 days = 1.333
90 days = 1.200
150 days = 1.107
240 days = 1.025

For standard member with 251~300 rented referrals
the break even average renewing:
15 days = 1.600
30 days = 1.467
60 days = 1.367
90 days = 1.267
150 days = 1.147
240 days = 1.075

Basically if your break even avg is 1.4

For example:
With 20 rented referrals you will need an
average of 28 clicks every day to break even.

(28 / 20 = 1.4)

Read this message about break even average


4. Recycling.

If your rented referral has no clicks for over 7 days let the
autocycle exchange them for free or else recycle them before that.

Read post by admin:
Let's all try to learn something

Activity distribution filter post by Admin
Admin message about recycling
Manual recycling improvements
What is the point of autorecycling
Automatic Recycling
Let's talk about averages

Use the export list to keep track of the daily clicks.

Read this message about EXPORT LIST

Wait at least 5 days before you judge a rented referral.
The more data you have the easier for you to decide if
the ref is clicking in a profitable way for you.

As a suggestion concentrate on older referrals
because you have more data to judge them correctly.

Here are some examples:

CLICKER #1:
1st week
0 0 0 2 0 0 0

2nd week
0 0 0 0 0 0 0

3rd week
2 0 0 0 0 0 2

4th week
2 0 2 0 0 0 2

Is this ref a profitable clicker?


CLICKER #2:
1st week
0 4 0 3 0 0 4

2nd week
2 0 3 0 4 0 0

3rd week
4 4 0 3 0 3 0

4th week
3 0 4 4 0 4 2

Is this ref a profitable clicker?


CLICKER #3:
1st week
0 3 0 4 4 0 0

2nd week
4 0 0 0 0 4 0

3rd week
3 0 0 3 2 0 0

4th week
2 0 3 0 0 0 2

And these refs are profitable clickers?

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How about this one?

What matters the most is to determine if the refs are
consistently clicking above your break even point and
recycle the ref that you judge is not longer clicking
in a profitable way for you anymore.

Also remember to keep recycling cost at a
reasonable level. Higher average with a higher recycling
cost doesn't help to increase your profit.

Not recycling reguarly is not good either keeping a
non clickers over 7~14 days just before the free 14 day
exchange costs you more money to keep the refs.

Try and test different strategies and
do what works for your groups of
referrals and improve upon it.


Recycling strategy idea #1

Recycling strategy idea #2



5. Get some direct referrals.

To help enhance your earnings for free.

You can only have direct referrals after being a member for
at least 15 days and having at least 100 clicks.
Any attempts to get them before that you will lose them!

Here are some ways to get direct referrals:

* Talk to relatives, colleagues and friends.
* Pay to advertise your banner/ref-link in various websites.
* Create your own blog or site.
* Create video in broadcasting sites like Youtube and put your ref-link in the details/info.
* Post in various forums.
* Make any advertisement you can think of in real life.

Here are some more ideas...


6. Stay updated.

Keep an eye out from the Latest news for discounts,
specials, and new features by admin.

Learn to use the tools, features and graphics.


7. Help and support.

99% of the questions can be found by reading the:
* FAQ
* Help page
* Search
* T.O.S.

If you can't find them and still have questions just
post a new topic in the proper sections of the forum
or live support when available or email support

8. Investment Guide

http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/4/147947/schen2000-Golden-with-Ultimate-Pack/0/1813489/#m1813489

9. Renewal Price Table

http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/7/151430/How-To-Guide/0/1898541/#m1898541

Guide for New Members

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2010/10/12 at 00:19
schen2000 edited message on 2012/05/19 at 05:59
GUIDE FOR NEW MEMBERS

DETERMINE YOUR PERSONAL GOALS AND RISKS

Set some personal goals & budget:

Q:
How much risk am I willing to take,
am I conservative or a risk taker?
A:
I am a semi conservative

Q:
How much money am I willing to invest?
A:
I have about $400~$500

Q:
How much energy & time am I willing to invest?
A:
Maybe 2, 3 years or longer

Q:
How much energy & time am I willing to learn the system?
A:
15~30 minutes a day

Q:
Does this rental referral works for me?
A:
For some it works for others it doesn't.
Only you can find out for yourself.


Q:
How much do I want to make and what to do with it?
A:
I want a monthly residual income of $200
to buy rare coins


Q:
How many rented or direct referrals do I need to
reach that goal?
A:
I would take a conservative guess
maybe $2 for each ref rented,
so 500 ref would cost around $1000
renewing 240 days.
With a 0.9 or 1.0 average you
could possibly make a return of $300~$400 a year.
With a 0.7 or 0.8 average you
could also possibly make a return of $130 ~ $220 a year.
It all depends on the refs you get
and how well you can manage them.


Q:
Do I have back up money
just in case the budget is not holding up?
A:
I have another $150 in my saving account,
I can also easily borrow $100 or $200 from my uncle


Set small goals or milestones to accomplish.

Examples:

rent & manage 20 refs
rent & manage 100 refs
rent & manage 300 refs
rent & manage 500 refs
rent & manage 1000 refs
rent & manage 1500 refs
rent & manage 2000 refs
rent & manage 4000 refs
rent & manage 6000 refs
rent & manage 10000 refs

personal clicks reached 400
personal clicks reached 1000
personal clicks reached 2000
personal clicks reached 2500
personal clicks reached 5000

ADPRIZE

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2012/01/15 at 02:00
schen2000 edited message on 2013/01/20 at 11:26
ADPRIZE

Simple and easy to play
100% free and win prizes just
for viewing advertisements!

Remember that AdPrize will reset in the following circumstances:
- 90 minutes after being granted.
- After your reset time.
- If the advertiser removes the advertisement that granted them.

So, how do you play it?
Located on the advertisements page
simply click on the # to play:
http://www.neobux.com/m/v/



The chances you have to play:
This is very simple: For every advertisement you see,
regardless of the type of exposure, you'll have 3 chances to play.

Read the news in the links provided at
the bottom of this post.

When and how will the prizes be credited?
Automatically and instantly.

Types of prize available daily
currently worth $9000+ per day:

(quantities available varies and decreases for large amount prizes)

  • Memberships
    • Free Golden membership
  • Monetary prizes added to the main balance:
    • $0.25
    • $0.50
    • $1.00
    • $2.00
    • $5.00
    • $10.00
    • $25.00
    • $50.00
  • NeoPoint prizes:
    • 10 NeoPoints
    • 100 NeoPoints
    • 1000 NeoPoints
    • 10000 NeoPoints

There's no limit in term of prizes or monetary amount. It all depends on luck as per the announced odds.

Will I have to pay to play?
Certainly not! No user and / or advertiser will spend a single cent to get the benefits from AdPrize.

Can I withdraw monetary prizes?
Sure you can. Those prizes will be credited to your main balance which means you can do whatever you want with them.

I'm a Golden Member. What happens if I win a Golden Membership?
If you're already a Golden Member one more year will be added to your membership's expiration date. If you're not, you will be upgraded for a full year when you win the prize.

Why aren't referrals given as a prize?
When we held the rented referrals jackpot years ago things were different because availability met demand and a portion could in fact be offered. Although we currently still have referrals available to satisfy most of our users, getting direct referrals is an extremely expensive and exhaustive thing for us. Not only due to the fact that we purchase users' direct referrals but also due to all the advertising campaigns we need to do to get new unreferred members and then select them according to past activity which reduces the amount of users gathered. We prefer to meet demand with what we have right now than to offer a percentage of them as a prize.

What about my privacy?
As always we will never show that you've won a prize because we do respect our user's privacy and security without exception. If you win a prize you can show it in our Forum (the "Your success stories" sub-forum is great for that) and, although we'd appreciate it because it would be a great motivation for other members, it's not required.

Does this interfere with the hourly draw of $0.50?
No, it does not. These are complementary prizes. We'll still give away $1440 in prizes everyday for seeing the regular advertisements and now we'll add approximately $1820 in prizes giving it a total of approximately $3260 in daily prizes with no limit on how many you can win.

Advertisment free credits:
  • Micro Exposure: 2x:
    You'll get what you purchased and the same amount to be viewed again in AdPrize.
  • Mini Exposure: 5x:
    You'll get what you purchased and 4 times more the same amount to be viewed again in AdPrize.
  • Standard Exposure: 10x:
    You'll get what you purchased and 9 times more the same amount to be viewed again in AdPrize.
  • Extended Exposure: 20x:
    You'll get what you purchased and 19 times more the same amount to be viewed again in AdPrize.
  • Fixed Advertisements: Varies:
    Your advertisement will get more views during the exposed period in AdPrize (for all purple fixed advertisements: from 10% to 85% of all AdPrize visualizations depending on the currently available advertisement's AdPrize credits).


  • A few guidelines:
    • All bonus credits will be shown in AdPrize for 5 seconds each regardless of the exposure purchased.
    • Demographically filtered advertisements will be shown unfiltered in AdPrize.
    • If you don't want your advertisement to be displayed using bonus credits in AdAlert you only need to deactivate that exposure in your advertisements settings page. You can define it individually for each advertisement.
    • Disabling an advertisement from being displayed won't remove unused bonus credits. Unused bonus credits will only be removed if the advertisement is deleted by you or due to inactivity.
    • Only advertisements that have been viewed in the past 7 days will be shown in AdPrize.
    • You'll have a comprehensive running total of credits available and used. Fixed advertisements will get credits even if no credits are available.
    Does this means that as an advertiser I will get more clicks to my advertisement?
    Yes, it does. You'll get from 2 times to 16 times of what you've purchased.
    You can also look at it from the price perspective. The price per click will be approximately the same for every exposure. For example, if you purchase 1000 Standard Exposure Clicks for $16 the price per click will be $0.016 but, since you'll get 8 times what you've purchased, you get 8000 clicks (1000 Standard Exposure and 7000 for the AdPrize), the price per click will be just $0.002. When you compare that 10000 Micro Exposure clicks cost the same $16 you've spent, it's completely amazing yet still unbelievably fair.

    What more benefits will my advertisement get?
    Besides having more clicks / lower click price, you won't have to suffer the loss of benefits from having a unique exposure. A unique exposure is great for very specific campaigns and every marketer knows that most products and services are only effective when advertised over and over. A unique exposure gives you a "show and forget" campaign which is hardly effective. Now, having that unique exposure exponentially increased by repetitive exposures will increase advertisement campaigns to new heights. Basically you'll purchase a 24 hour unique exposure and get extra ones to make your campaign memorable and exponentially more successful.

    Will banner exposure also benefit from this?
    Absolutely! Not only the banners in the actual advertisement page will be shown more times than before but also the ones in the advertisement listing page will get all the required attention because the AdPrize button has been placed strategically besides it and below all the advertisements the user has to view. And no, we won't charge you a single cent more for banner exposure. Still the same low prices as always.
  • piatok 29. marca 2013

    My cuurent success

    Rented referrals: 5
    My seen advertisements: 10,893
    Your referrals: 2,948
    Main Balance: 0.002
    Rental Balance: 12.830
    Direct Purchases: 36.200
    NeoPoints: 8,481
    NeoCoins: 825
    NeoCoins (Pending): 179
    Mini Jobs: 7.030
    Mini Jobs (Bonuses): 0.840
    clicks today: 5
    clicks yesterday: 5
    clicks last 10 days: 45

    Pay as you go strategy

    LucidSpider 


     
     

     
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    2011/05/03 at 23:39
    LucidSpider edited message on 2011/05/03 at 23:52
    P.S. I was hoping if I could ask the moderators if they could keep this one open for a tiny bit longer than usual. I am hoping to get suggestions from both veterans and new users, and if we all do come to a conclusion, we will have something to link to new users who say they have trouble extending their RRs, whether it be 10 RRs, or 1000 RRs. (I put this on top so the mods would see it first).

    -------------------------------


    Howdy everyone. Well, lets up jump right to it. (And make sure that if you DO respond, that you read all of this post, so we can avoid miscommunication and get straight to the problem.)

    Now some of you who are reading this may be confused as to what I mean by "extension strategy". Usually, when we think of strategy, we think of recycling, managing, etc. I am here to bring up a different point of view on extending, while hopefully getting my question answered.


    You see, I had a recycle strategy that went sour, which in turn, made it harder for me to extend my RRs like I normally do because I had to dip more into my pockets and pay more and more money. On the bright side, over the past 5 days or so, I went into the process of fixing my strategy and "jump starting" my average, bringing it from a .5-.6 range to a .7-.8 (hopefully will break .8 today). Now the thing is, in the process of cleaning out and restarting, I had to increase recycle costs temporarily, which thus lead me to have a little less than expected to extend. Now, while I can still dip into my own pockets (I only have so much money a month I can pump into Neobux), let me explain what I am looking for through a story/situation type thing. (All numbers are fictional and made up, I know the objects described below don't actually cost the amount mentioned.)




    A small business owner makes $100 a month. His car breaks down one day, and he decides to go rent a car from his local rental store. He goes in, tells the sales clerk his situation and asks what options there are to pay. The sales clerk lays out two options:



    1. Pay $200 right now to rent the car the whole year
    2. Pay $30 a month to rent the car for a month



    The man, with an intent of renting the car for a whole year, does a quick calculation to see that the first option, while costing him more upfront, only costs him $200 a year while the second option costs him $360 a year. What is he to do if he only makes $100 a month?


    Essentially I am sort of in that boat, as I am sure a lot of people in Neobux are. While some people would dip into their own pockets, and just extend 240 days (or even 150 or 90), not everyone in the Neobux community has that option. Some of us need a pay-as-you-go extension strategy. Some of us need to go with option 2. We don't mind coming out with a smaller paycheck as long as it means we aren't getting into debt. And heck, while we save up the money we do earn, we might eventually invest it to extend referrals even longer.


    My question to you is, what is the best pay-as-you-go strategy? Or in terms of the story, what is the best kind of option 2? I have been debating, and was thinking that auto-pay for sure would be turned on in a strategy like this, most likely with a 15 day extension 20 days before the RRs expire, to keep them always on Auto-pay. Anybody have a better idea? If you guys need any information from me, feel free to ask. I think if we can get this problem solved, it will give people another option than just having to extending for high amounts of time for maximum discounts.
     
     
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    2011/05/04 at 01:24
    The concept is actually very simple:

    The more days you will renew for, the more safe you are. That's why it's advisable from the start to rent less referrals than what you can afford and use the rest of the budget to renew them for as longer as possible the first time.

    In case now that you cannot afford the maximum renewals (240 days) then you must go for less days. The more you can afford the safer you are. If you can afford less than 90 days renewals, then AutoPay should be turned on because it will offer you an extra discount without a need to pay for it in advance.

    My advice is to avoid at all costs the 15 days renewals because they are the more risky plan.

    Keep always in mind that AutoPay pays only the active clickers (for their first click for a day) and most probably the majority of the days of your referrals will be paid through the manual renewal plans. That's why is advisable your manual renewal plan to be as longer (in number of days) as possible.

    Of course if you value more a faster progress than a stable progress, then you may consider the short renewal plans in order to rent faster but in this case you must be aware that the risk level is higher.

    WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH A $700 BUDGET?

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    2012/09/10 at 01:34
    With a budget of $700 (which is the one that you are sure that you want to spend) you can follow a very stable plan:

    Reach a total of 500 referrals extended for 240 days and get a golden membership. This will put you in a position where you will have 500 rented referrals on the 240 days renewal plan and a golden membership which means that averages above 0.541 (this is the lowest possible break even point in terms of average within NeoBux) can be profitable for you.

    Specifically you can follow this plan:
    -Rent 100 referrals on 14 of September and go golden on 17-18 for $110 in total.
    -Rent 100 referrals on 21 of September for $20.
    -Rent 40 referrals on 28 of september for $8.
    -Do not rent more referrals until you extend for 240 days the 240 new ones for a total cost $268.8 (after the 250 rented referrals the rental/renewal prices go up as you can see in the help page).
    -Based on your words you will have the rest of your budget available for sure on 8 of October, so this day rent 100 referrals more for $21.
    -Rent 100 referrals for $21 on 15 of October.
    -Rent 50 referrals for $10.5 on 22 of October and extend the last 250 referrals you've got for 240 days for $295 in total.

    The grand total is $754.3 and it's obvious that the missing (over your budget) $54.3 will come from your earnings in the meantime.

    After you are in that position where it's easy to make profit you can think again what do you want to do. Either
    A)staying here, stabilizing your account in a profitable level and start cashouting or reinvesting your profit
    Or
    B)Spend more money from your pocket to rent more referrals and/or consider the purchase of a golden pack.

    How much profit you can make from your account is something that only time will tell (and better to avoid predictions) but at least with the above plan you know that you will have to pay the minimum possible cost to maintain your account which means the highest possible profit margin for the number of the referrals you will have.
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    2 suggestions:

    1) Do not forget to click the 4 (9 when your are golden) orange fixed ads daily based on server time (see ToS point 3.7. for more info).

    2) Be ready to develop and apply a reasonable manual recycle policy. The detailed previous behavior of every referral is the key (try to spot recurrent behaviors to understand the clicking patterns).

    Example: You have a referral who is clicking 1 ad every 3 days and he/she did that 7 times in a row. That referral is clicking obviously in a non profitable way for the last 21 days. In this case you have a clear clicking pattern which is not profitable, has no chances to reach the auto-recycle (this is a free recycle which will happen automatically if any of your referrals has stayed inactive for 14 consecutive days) limit and therefore you should manually recycle (personally in this example I would have recycled him/her at the 4th of 5th time).

    As you understand is strongly advisable to study the whole previous behavior of any referral you consider to recycle and therefore you should keep stats daily. If you don't know how to use the exported lists, then this post will help you a lot:
    http://www.neobux.com/forum/?frmid=7&tpcid=151430&msgid=1639866#m1639866

    As a suggestion concentrate on older referrals when you recycle, because you have more data to judge them as precisely as possible and remember to give always enough time to referrals (especially new ones) to show you what they can do for you.

    Remember always that the best recycle policy is the one you will develop yourself based on the behavior of your referrals. Since every account and referral is unique there is not a standard recipe that will work for every one.
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    Because renting as golden is a little harder (but not that hard), here are some info:

    From the FAQ:
    Golden members have much more demand in renting referrals compared to Standard members because almost all of them can afford to rent. As the demand rises, the distributed referrals for a particular time are easily sold out.

    Golden members can rent referrals by setting two times of the day for renting depending on their most convenient time. You can find that option in your personal settings. After you change the time, you can only change it again after 7 days.

    Remember to be quick because many other members will be there at the same time as you trying to rent.

    If you're having trouble renting, you can always use the rental queue which, while being a bit more expensive, will guarantee you the referrals.

    Best of luck.

    WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH A $300 or $500 BUDGET?

    reggen666 
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     Posts: 44592
    2012/11/25 at 18:48
    Here are 2 stable enough plans:

    For $300:
    -Rent 100 referrals: $20
    -Rent 100 referrals: $20
    -Purchase golden membership: $90
    -Rent 50 referrals: $10.

    Total cost $140 which means that you will have $160 for renewals. With the help of your earnings it's almost sure that you will be able to extend all of them for at least 150 days before the end of the first 30 days which means that it will be possible to stay within the profit zone with averages over 0.599.
    .
    For $500:
    -Rent 100 referrals: $20
    -Rent 100 referrals: $20
    -Purchase golden membership: $90
    -Rent 100 referrals: $20.
    -Rent 100 referrals: $21.
    -Rent 100 referrals: $21.

    Total cost $192 which means that you will have $308 for renewals. With the help of your earnings it's almost sure that you will be able to extend all of them for at least 150 days before the end of the first 30 days which means that it will be possible to stay within the profit zone with averages over 0.576.

    Note: For the $500 plan it would be advisable to extend as many as possible for 150 days before you cross the 250 rented referrals.

    WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH A $150 BUDGET?

    reggen666 
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     Posts: 44592
    2011/07/02 at 10:17
    Renting as a standard 100 referrals and renew for 240 days is a good option. In this case you will need any average above 0.93 to be in the profit zone.

    But with $150 you can:
    -Rent 100 referrals for $20
    -Go golden for $90
    -Rent 50 referrals for $10
    Total cost is $120 so you will have in advance the money ($30) to renew everyone for 30 more days.

    Most probably you will be able to renew everyone for at least 60 more days before the end of the first 30 days which will make it possible to stay in profit with an average over 0.764. Using AutoPay is strongly advisable in this case and it will push the average you need to be in profit towards 0.73. When you are able to renew everyone for at least 90 more days, you should turn AutoPay off because 90 more days offer a better discount than AutoPay.

    In short:
    Renting 100 referrals and renew for 240 day as a standard member means a BEP of 0.933 and renting 150 referrals (including the funds to renew for at least 30 more days) as a golden member means a BEP of around 0.75.

    The choice is yours.

    WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH A $100 BUDGET?

    reggen666 
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    2011/07/28 at 17:25
    If you want to go for a golden membership it would be advisable to have a budget of $150. Then you can rent 100 referrals for $20, go golden for $90, rent another 50 referrals for $10 and you will also have $30 to be able to renew your referrals for as longer as possible the first time. In this case it's advisable to enable AutoPay and disable only when you are in position to renew all your referrals for 90 or more days.

    If your budget is strictly $100, then you should rent referrals as a standard member. Renting less referrals and use the rest of funds to renew them for longer period(s) the first time will offer you stability, while renting more referrals can help you to build your downline faster.

    The final choice is yours and depends on how much you prefer a slower, but more stable progress over a faster, but less stable progress.

    utorok 26. marca 2013

    Autorenew

    schen2000 
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    2011/01/13 at 17:45
    schen2000 edited message on 2012/10/10 at 06:14
    AUTORENEW

    Basically when any of the rented referrals
    has reached the specified days remaining
    prior to their expiration days, the referrals
    will be automatically renewed for the days selected.

    Make sure you have enough funds
    in either rental or main balances
    to cover the renewal costs or else
    the rented referrals will not get
    renewed by AutoRenew and you'll need
    to manually renew them before they
    expires which there is a fee.




    Discounts from the days renewing:
    -Renewing for 15 more days offers no discount.
    -Renewing for 30 more days offers a 5% discount.
    -Renewing for 60 more days offers a 10% discount.
    -Using Autopay offers a 15% discount.
    -Renewing for 90 more days is offers a 18% discount.
    -Renewing for 150 more days is offers a 25% discount.
    -Renewing for 240 more days is offers a 30% discount.

    FAQ=> Referrals=>AutoRenew=>

    What is AutoRenew?

    AutoRenew is the automatic renewal process of your rented referrals.
    Contrary to AutoPay which will work only when a referral makes
    his/her first click for a day and will extend for one day the
    referral's deadline, AutoRenew works every day (*) and prolongs
    your referralâs deadline based on your chosen renewal period
    and time before expiration.

    You can enable AutoRenew in your rented referrals listing
    page the same way you do with AutoPay.

    Before enabling it the two following options will be given:
    Period: This will be the exact period for which the referral's
    rental will be extended. You can choose any of the usual manual
    renewal periods (15, 30, 60, 90, 150, and 240 days) to receive
    the benefit from the related discounts for each period
    (except for the 15 days one).

    Before: The time before the expiration when the automated renewal
    will be triggered. You can choose any of the available number of
    days and your referrals will be extended if the rental deadline
    is the same or below the chosen number of days.

    (*) AutoRenew will only be attempted for each referral once per day.
    If you have no funds in your rental and / or main balance or some
    unexpected error occurs, the referral(s) that weren't renewed will
    be only checked again approximately 24 hours after. We advise you
    to choose a higher number of days between the first renewal check
    and the referrals' deadline, so that you'll have the most chances
    of getting all referrals automatically renewed. It's your
    responsibility to have enough funds for the renewals and always
    check if any referral has failed to be renewed automatically.

    Autopay

    schen2000 
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    2010/10/13 at 15:51
    schen2000 edited message on 2013/02/20 at 04:47
    AUTOPAY

    AutoPay Minimum Days Limit:
     Standard  = 20 days
     Golden  = 20 days
     Emerald  = 20 days
     Sapphire  = 18 days
     Platinum  = 20 days
     Diamond  = 14 days
     Ultimate  = 10 days

    Basically once it's enabled AutoPay will
    pay and extend 1 day at 15% discount for
    any of the ref(s) that has made a click
    and has more than 20 days left.

    When the rented referrals has less than 20 days left
    you will need to manually renew or enable autorenew
    them or else they will expire which there is a small fee per TOS 3.4

    Autopay is 4th cheapest way to renew your refs,
    when you have all your refs renew longer then 90 days,
    it's not longer needed, but autopay can still be useful
    to help spread out the # of refs due to expire at the same time.

    15 days renewal = 0% discount
    30 days renewal = 5% discount
    60 days renewal = 10% discount
    Autopay = 15% discount
    90 days renewal = 18% discount
    150 days renewal = 25% discount
    240 days renewal = 30% discount

    Autopay can be enabled or disabled for all rented referrals.

    Some examples:
    Ref #1 has 19 days left autopay will not pay for ref #1.

    Ref #2 has 23 days left and made a click,
    autopay will extend ref #2 for 1 more day.

    Ref #3 has 40 days left and made no click,
    autopay will not extend ref #3 until
    a click is made.

    AutoPay automatically deducts the
    payments from the rental balance, if it
    has insufficient funds, it uses main balance.
    If both balances have insufficient funds
    it won't be triggered and will only work again
    when one of the balances has enough funds.

    AutoPay features:
    - Renew referrals for 1 day at a time at 15% discount.
    - Saves time in automatic renewing refs with 20 or more day remaining.
    - Cheaper then 15, 30, 60 days renewing.
    - Might help in filtering out low clickers.
    - Might help in using earnings efficiently.
    - Help in delaying payments on large numbers of refs expiring at the same time.
    - No need to use AutoPay if renewing longer than 90, 150, 240 days.
    - Flexibility to enable or disable at any time.
    - AutoPay works for all the refs, you cannot select who to extend for 1 extra day.


    Also read here

    For example:
    If today the ref makes 1 click
    it'll get extended for 1 extra day at the
    15% discount price per day.

    If your current month rental cost
    is $0.25 which comes to $0.00833 per ref per day
    with AutoPay your per ref cost per day now is $0.00708333

    Also read...
    From FAQ=>Referrals=>AutoPay=>What is AutoPay?

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    More AutoPay Examples:

    Example 1:
    I just extend some refs for 90 days.
    I'll enable autopay and help spread out the cost
    so I don't need to come up with a lump sum of cash
    when the refs come close to their expiration date.

    Example 2:
    My ref has less than 20 days left. Autopay is
    not going to extend them for me anymore.
    I have to manually extend them for 15/30/60/90/150/240 days.

    Example 3:
    Extending 1 ref with no discount is $0.26 per month
    which cost $0.0087 per day (0.26/30).

    Extending 1 ref at 18% discount for 90 days is $0.64

    $0.26 per month
    x
    3 months
    x
    0.82 (18% discount)
    /
    90 days
    =
    $0.0071 per day.

    With AutoPay on.

    If the ref click today (now 89 days left).
    I'll paid:

    $0.26 per month
    x
    0.85 (15% discount)
    /
    30 days
    =
    $0.007366 per day.

    The refs remaining time will stay the same
    at 89 days (+1 day from autopay and -1 day because a day has passed)